Devin Townsend: Ki Largo




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Musician, composer and producer, Devin Townsend is always where you don’t expect him : After ‘Ziltoïd’, written, played and recorded all by himself, he announces his departure from the music live scene and industry. Devin, now a happy father, works at home after getting rid of Strapping Young Lad and DT Band. And today, here he is again, with not one but four albums, a new musical project called ‘The new Devin Townsend Project’, the first one being ‘Ki’, with a bunch of new collaborators. So what’s the Ki of all that?

 

-Two years ago, you surprised many people in declaring you were quitting the scene circuit and music industry, after the release of ‘Ziltoid’: what happen to make you take this decision?

-DT: I think the first primary change for me was to stop smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol. Many decisions I made up this point were based on a kind of clouded sense of what I was trying to do. So that cloud kind of left, it gave me a couple of years to truly think about the direction I wanted to go in and, in that couple of years, I realized I made the difference between the music I was confident with and music that comes naturally to me, even if that sounds off of sort, I was very happy to do that. Up to this point, I’ve doing a lot of things that were contrary to my nature, based on a clouded frame of mine.

 

-The fact to wear a mask for ‘Ziltoid’, despise the fact he’s an alien, was it also motivated because you were fed up of your image at the time?

-DT:  -Absolutely. The Ziltoid character was pretty much a metaphor for where I was at that point. The story, at the end of the record, the moral of the Ziltoid record was that Zilltoid actually didn’t exist, it was a projection of somebody who’s powerless in his own life, and need to create an image of himself that was more powerful than he actually was, and I think that, as a metaphor, the Ziltoid character definitely relies to the character I was portraying in terms of my life performances with Strapping Young Lad. So I think Ziltoid was an important record for me, in order to like almost realize that from myself. Ziltoid is not just an odd story, it’s very much an observation of how things have progressed in my own career.

 

-In the meantime, you declared dead Strapping Young Lads as well as Devin Townsend band: did you regret that decision, and do you think those bands are dead forever?

-DT:  -No, there’s no point, really. The music that I make is supposed to me, in my mind, a reflection of where I am at a current point in time, and in the way I think my musical mind works, I tend to attache pieces of music subconsciously to advance in my life, I’m looking for   music that illustrate that. And so, with that in mind, as a person, I’m constantly trying to better myself or get from one stage to another. In  the case of Strapping Young Lad maybe resolved certain issues, of lot of work we did with that was a vital, musical entity; back when it was created, it was very honest about that particular period of time and, unfortunately for the people who would like to see it continue, that particular period of time was for the most part, in my twenties, and now I have kind of changed in a lot of ways, and became more, I guess, as an adult. The idea of returning to those previously resolved issues doesn’t make a lot of sense. The fact that the people want it to happen, eventually, previously, people offered us a lot of money to reunite, and I think that I have to be really conscious of the need for money versus the need for artistic progression. Because SYL quits, and because the Devin Townsend Band was the balance to that, I couldn’t choose one or the other, and they are both done.  

 

-You’re a dad now, and you said you wanted to have more time with your family: so, how the new Devin Townsend today?

DT: -I feel much better, God yeah, but again, I think that was the goal from the beginning: I was never in a speed metal or trash metal bands without the intention of resolving, whatever made me feel that, and, even when I was doing SYL, I would thinking that, eventually, this  would be over. So it wasn’t necessarily my motivation, to do that that music, to think that it’s cool or something that could contribute to something, it was just a reaction against a certain period of time. Now, the fact I have a family and feels a lot quieter as a person, I guess this goal is also determined by a lot of things, including age: I’m 37 now, and, by the virtue of that age, there’s much more headspace than when I was 24. To be honest, the energy that made SYL, the vital and musical entity it was it the same energy and honesty that made ‘Ki’ the vital musical entity that it is: I couldn’t have done this album when I was 23, I can do it now.

 

-This year, you announce the release of not one but four albums, under the banner of ‘The New Devin Townsend Project’, the four of them being very different: how was born this idea?

DT: -As I mentioned earlier about how the music seems to present itself, it just kind of materializes, based on the personal events that occurred in my life. Those four records were the result of me having gone through certain changes and, during the time those changes were taking place, after the last time we talked, I decided to not play for a while. But the problem to not play is I came to the conclusion that the music is not a decision for me as much as an  inevitable part of my world, so by stopping, when I started again, I had a such a backlog of experiences, that ended up writing a lot of music to document at that time, and I think the overwhelming lesson I learned of that is you should probably keep writing, making a conscious decision that perhaps to be a musician is not what you are because, maybe the biggest lesson I’ve learned over the past three years is that it is what I am and what I do, and stop again only seemed to result in a lot of work at the end to catch up.

 

-What is the concept of ‘Ki’?

-DT: -Well, I think, in terms of concept, it’s a loose concept, but I would say I’m not t a particularly good at writing stories, so it’s not like a Pink Floyd-ish concept or something like that. The general idea is not necessarily a conscious one, reflects certain periods of my progression. I think there’s a line that goes through it, and I think that the story, if you want to call it that, basically revolves around that: when I wrote the first song and the last song of the record, it’s different periods of time. So, lyrically, it seems to follow a kind of loose progression that I guess mirrors my own development or regression or whatever at that time

 

-The project will conclude by the release of a box set with eight records and a DVD: what can be found on it?

-DT:-There will be four albums, and a bonus disc for each album, and a DVD. For each record, it will have some remixes, some isolated vocals: during the process, I wrote about sixty songs, and only forty five songs are actually on the records, so theirs is a backlog of material that is good, but maybe not appropriate for the actual release, so we’ll find them on the bonus disc: the point is to say that all this happen to me during that period, that makes sense and so then I can move forward to my next project. For the DVD, I’ve got a camera all the time, for example when we did a show in L.A, on this promo tour, or when I was myself in a constant interview, so theirs is, not necessarily a documentary, but rather a diary.

 

-Your worked alone for ‘Ziltoid’: how is it to work with a band again?

-DT:-It was a ceremony of offices, because, on one level, doing music on my own is very isolating, lonely in a way, and so being back with people was nice to reconnect, but also, I quickly realized why Ziltoid was such a release for me, because the interpersonal  relationships that comes from being in a band, like married for seventeen years, and that’s hard work, but all of a sudden, getting into a new relationship with four men, it’s hard work without any benefits! My all relationship with them was a learning process, in that situation, the drummer and the bass player were twenty years older than me. So, in a way, it was great to have that perspective on the music, but, on the other way, many times, I told myself

I didn’t want to have a long discussion about this process, just record it and have it done. I recognize that, me being a musician, musicians are asking to themselves some questions, like lack of self esteem at some level, to make them feel that they need to share this with the world. And when you put five new musicians together, suddenly, all their motivations needs to be discussed, and, I definitely discussed it too, but sometimes, I just wanted to go home! So, it was good, but also tiring. 

 

-You said you’ll perform some selected shows: is it a chance to see you in Paris for it?

-DT:-Yes, but the live shows I was doing were very disappointing to me in the way I was doing it was because that was something I didn’t want to do. So, because that’s not the case, I live surely play live. But apart of that, people are talking about downloading the music when they have any questions about the music. I say ok, but, if you want to see me live, that’s how I make a living, so if I don’t sell records, there’s absolutely no way I can play. So, if the records sell, I will, and if it doesn’t, then, I can’t.

 

-And if you do, how will you choose the musicians who will be on stage with you? Will you bring all of them?

-DT: Oh, that would be great, but I can’t afford to do that! At this point, nothing has been decided, but there as discussions about each territory the records do the best, we could play there, and ‘Ki’’s the first. But I could also assemble a band for people capable to do it all, but again, the motivation for playing live at this point is tenuous because I wanna make sure that it would be for all of us financially viable, because, for years I toured losing money, due to poor decisions from myself and management and label and else. Times have changed, and so I can’t afford to do that anymore. But, also, if it’s gonna be done, it will be done in a way that it worth it  for the audience, and  it’s a kind of balance that hasn’t been determined yet.

 

-And about production: will you continue this activity?

DT:-we’ll see! Production is a hard job, because it became a day job, and a day job I couldn’t leave! At the end of the night I was carrying the interpersonal relationships of these

young bands home with me, and especially considering I stopped partying, and being surrounded by a bunch of twenty three years old kids wanting to party all night, I could slit my wrists! But, at the same time, this has definitely a side effect on producing which allow me now to take a deep breath on things that maybe previously affected me, everything happen with a reason.

 

-Now you have a happy personal life, how do you see your artistic future?

-DT:-I don’t know! All my music incorporates all I do from the really quiet orchestral thing up to the really chaotic heavy things, and I could evolve to soundtrack works or symphonies. I’m not spending to much time organizing my future yet, because if I start to think about the future at this point, then this records will be much harder to finish because I’m still tenuously   holding on to the reason why they were made, and so I would kind of like focus on those reasons distracted by being bored yet!

-Something to add?

-DT: -Yes, the cover sleeve is three-dimensional; you have to get special glasses to see it. That’s all.

 

Interview made in Paris on April 9th 2009.

Photos : Demiline.  Thanks to Roger Wessier.







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